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More high arctic fossil finds speak of the youth of the fossils, and we dive into an extended play mailbag, responding to a boatload of viewer comments and questions. This, is Genesis Week.
Welcome! To this episode of Genesis Week, the weekly program of creationary commentary on news, views and events pertaining to the origins controversy, made possible by the supporters of CORE Ottawa, Citizens for Origins Research and Education, and of course, carried on the Christianima network – christianima.com – Christian cinema at its finest. Excellence in pirate broadcasting, we continue to bring you the information the anticreationists don’t want you to see or hear, and giving glory to our Creator while doing it. The Bible does not say “Be ye transformed by the removal of your mind,” rather we here at Genesis Week believe your brain was intelligently designed, and God wants you to use it. Remember if you get lost in cyberspace, you can just punch in wazooloo.com or genesisweek.com and you can find us, and also subscribe to our youtube channel to get extras like CrEvo rants and full interviews with our guests. I’m your host, Ian Juby
I had a PILE of viewers write in about a fun fossil find from the Canadian High Arctic. The Canadian Museum of Nature launched an expedition to Ellesmere Island, where they found a fossil CAMEL. Not just any camel, but a giant camel – some 30% larger than modern camels, or probably around 10 feet tall. While this may be surprising to many people, it’s not surprising to you, because you watch this show and we’ve discussed it all before on this show! Gigantic animals in the fossil record is common, and in fact my good buddy Joe Taylor excavated a fossil camel in west Texas that he estimated was about 19 feet tall. We find fossil armadillos six feet long, dragonflies with 1 meter or three foot wingspans, moose standing around 12 feet tall at the shoulders, and plants of enormous sizes. Plants like the club moss, which today might grow to maybe – maybe 16 inches tall here in Ontario, we find the same plant in the fossil record with a trunk a meter in diameter and up to 120 feet – 35 meters, tall! This fossil camel, and pretty much all fossil life, shows we have been de-evolving; we’ve lost something. We’ve lost size and stature.
Of course, most people associate Camels with the Sahara Dessert, not the Canadian North Pole! But if you’ll recall from our “Breaking the ice” episode, though the Canadian Arctic may be a white winter wasteland right now, we find buried in the ice and mud a wild array of animals: Mammoths and Mastodons, horses, rhinocerus, lion, leapoard, bear, tiger, reindeer, giant beaver, musk sheep, musk ox, donkey, and a wack of other animals that do not live in the Artic today. Now add ANOTHER camel to that list, as camels had been found in the High Arctic before. Mike Oard described contrasted the variety of animals found in the High Arctic: “The only similar diversity of mammals is on the Serengeti of East Africa.”
You’ll remember a couple of episodes back, we went into a number of examples of soft tissues, and even living organisms being found in the fossil record. Well, this camel provided still yet another example, as collagen fibers were found in these camel bones. It all speaks of the youthfulness of the fossils. The Camel fossil hasn’t been dated with carbon 14, as they’ve assigned it an age of some 3-1/2 million years old. And I predict that if they ran carbon 14 tests on those bones, they would be found to have LOTS of carbon 14 still in it, and a radiocarbon age that’ll be like, 1/100th of the assigned age of 3-1/2 million years old. We’re told the Greenland ice sheet represents at least 100,000 years of accumulated snow and ice – which would be a problem for the Biblical age for the earth of a mere 6,000 years old. Yet many of those fossils found in the High Arctic return carbon 14 dates of a mere 4 to 5,000 years old. Are we to believe that the High Arctic had an animal population as diverse as the Serengeti – The High Arctic of Canada, Alaska and Siberia, yet Greenland was somehow buried under a kilometer of ICE?
Again, it all just points to the ages assigned to the Greenland ice sheet being quite young, and everything about these fossils speaks of youth.
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Because we’ve gone a couple of weeks without a mailbag, I thought I’d do an extended play version of viewer feedback this week – again, thanks to all of you who took the time to write in – especially to the person who anonymously sent me the pre-programmed killer robot armed with anti-personal missiles; he missed, but sure made a mess of my kitchen!
You’ll recall several weeks back Oren from Colorado wrote in, challenging those who claim that dinosaurs and humans never lived at the same time to “prove it!” Well Oren, I’m sad to say I did not get a single attempt by anyone to prove that dinosaurs and humans never lived at the same time. I will, however, go into detail in a special episode of Genesis Week on the astonishing evidence that dinosaurs and humans most certainly DID live at the same time.
In our “Toad you so” episode, we talked about the incredible number of finds of not only soft tissues such as bone marrow, blood vessels and blood cells in dinosaur bones. We then went on to discover living bacteria and even living toads in rocks allegedly 400 million years old and older! We were overwhelmed with comments from that episode, both interest and criticism.
YouTube Dkundzinsh wrote in:
by far one of your best shows EVER. the soft tissue and the blood proves without a doubt that it CANNOT be millions of years old but then the hibernated frogs just blew my socks off!
Keep doing God’s work Ian Genesis week keeps getting better and better and also thanks for slowing down for all of us slow thinkers
Don wrote in from Ontario:
Toad be or not toad be …
Would hybernating toads not be a strong suggestion that there was not an ice age ?
How cold can the toads become before their cell structures burst ? Not much below
zero I would suspect.
An ice age would deep freeze the ground, killing the toads, no doubt cracking the
sedimentary layers more than we see.
-Don, from Ontario
Excellent question Don – in Northern Ontario, around the south shores of Hudson’s bay for example, where the frogs and toads hibernate of course for many months during the winter. They bury themselves in fairly shallow areas which do stoop down well below freezing temperatures and they survive just fine. Furthermore, there was much, much more to the subject of torpid toads that I didn’t get in to – I mean, I only provided a couple of examples, there were many, many more reports. Of interest to your question was another one of the reports by Lindsey Williams, writing in 1980 of his experiences and observations as Chaplain to the Alaskan pipeline construction crews in the 1970’s. He wrote:
However, on this particular day a man whom I personally know to be very reliable came to me and said something like this: “Chaplain, you won’t believe this, but we were digging in this gravel pit on the Sag River, quite a number of feet under the surface depth. We brought to the surface what looked like a big Louisiana bull frog. We brought it into the building and allowed it to thaw out.”
As I say, what was then told to me is hard to believe. However, let me point out that the frog is a cold-blooded mammal, and that in the winter season is does go into a virtual state of deep freeze- much like the hibernation associated with bears and other Arctic animals.
This man described the way in which the frog was left there and then thawed out. He claimed they actually watched as it totally thawed, and that it then quite perceptibly moved – in fact it appeared to be alive, with those perceptible movements taking place for several minutes. Then the movement ceased, and the men threw the frog away. Of course, it would have been better if they had kept it and had the story both witnessed and properly authenticated. Nevertheless, I mention it as an incident that was accepted by others as actually taking place. I have no reason to doubt it.
-Lindsay Williams’ “The Energy Non-Crisis,” page 57
So this was a recent report – only from the 70’s, of a phenomena that has been seen apparently all over the world. I actually did some study on the permafrost depths on the North Shore of Alaska where this report came from, and the permafrost can go down hundreds of feet or more, then thaw out in the summer time – so obviously the frog was frozen pretty good, and from the description of the depth from where it was dug, it was probably there from the time of Noah’s flood.
Several skeptics wrote in with some pretty consistent, albeit ridiculous criticisms. Several skeptics wrote in, as well as some comments about the show on some blogs saying that I provided no references to scientific literature for the reports of soft tissues in fossils and living organisms.
Ummm….I don’t know what show you were watching, but the references were right on the screen – lots and lots of them. The show is uploaded to YouTube the day after it airs on television, so you can go and look see for yourself, and in fact, I even provide all the references I use in the show, in the description of the video on youtube, complete with hyperlinks.
Other skeptics chimed in about how Dr. Mary Schweitzer’s find of blood vessels and blood cells in a T-rex bone was just modern slime coating the inside of fossilized blood vessels. Well actually, Dr. Schweitzer herself had already addressed this and falsified it YEARS ago – I mentioned this in one of my past newsletters (http://ianjuby.org/newsletter/?p=60). If the soft, stretchy blood vessels were actually modern day slime that had grown inside fossil blood vessels, then the slime would be more thicker at the bottom of the tube than the top. And you wouldn’t expect to be able to take tweezers, squeeze these tubes like a tube of toothpaste, and have red globs come out that suuuurrre look like red blood cells!
But let’s give the skeptics that argument and say that Schweitzer was wrong – excellent! How do you respond to the many other reports of dinosaur MEAT, blood cells and soft, stretchy tissues? Reports which date back to 1923 and as recently as last month, with the report coming out from the Creation Research Society’s iDINO project finding the same things in a Triceratops horn. And let’s ignore all that – I’m quite certain that if we take one of those living toads that was released from solid rock allegedly 400 million years old – 5 times the alleged age of the dinosaurs, I’m pretty certain that if we cut open those living toads, we would find blood, blood vessels and soft tissues like meat. I’m pretty certain. I couldn’t help but notice that, except for one rude skeptic on the Genesis Week facebook page, no one lifted a finger to attempt to address the finding of LIVING organisms in allegedly old rocks. You know, living organisms like bacteria, toads, frogs and clams – all still alive in Ordovician rocks alleged to be older than 400 million years old. The only comment we received was from one rude skeptic who promptly got banned from our facebook page, criticizing people for believing the reports cause they were from the 1800’s. Ya, why would anybody believe anything from the 1800’s – they knew nothing about science, right?
As predicted, we got a boatload of viewer feedback on our two episodes examining the dark side of Darwin.
because humans are communal animals who survive and prosper through cooperation, “survival of the fittest” could just as well mean those who work most effectively with others.
However, even granting the idea that evolution is a cruel process (it is, in many cases) it doesn’t do anything to show that evolution isn’t real. Cruel =/= false
you sure are one terrible person Ian and a bad Christian as well
Responding to the critics on YouTube, warblerito wrote in:
Denying the very real social-darwinism phenomena in our recent and current history is voluntary ignorance. Maybe your ears are stopped up with the anti-religious hipster religion. The moral implications, wrought from a evolutionary mindset, have been used to justify atrocities. Simple and documented. Did you not hear the quote from your own precious Richard Dawkins? Did you even watch this video? Don’t be a victim of pop-culture the same way you already know not to be a victim of Fox news.
Ive stated multiple times that its irrelevant what the the theory of evolution actually states.The main point is what people believe once they believe evolution is true. And a lot of times people start to believe that life is meaningless (people that commit suicide). Others believe that they are higher evolved and less “inferior” than others (Hitler and columbine kids). Either way the point is that people draw these conclusions from the belief that evolution is true.
“If a person goes on a shooting rampage and claims that Jesus Christ has told them to do it, they would find difficulty justifying their claim…” and so on, basically saying they would be misinterpreting the bible. Then you go and misinterpret survival of the fittest, specially when it comes to mankind because you know full well that when it comes to mankind, the fittest were those with the characteristics of working together. Such profound dishonesty, you should be ashamed sir.
Dishonesty my foot! Even Richard Dawkins didn’t make the false claim you’re making now! He knew better, and even acknowledged the connection – as much as he didn’t like it.
TrollingWithReason also chimed in along the same lines:
The serial killer Bind Torture Kill ( BTK) was a church going christian. Further christianity in no way prevents Catholic priests from raping little boys.
A lot fewer dots can connect christianity to child molesting priests and ministers… along with the churches that bury the information to protect their image.
It’s interesting you guys bring this up: As I stated in the show, anybody can perform wicked deeds – but that person would have a hard time justifying their murderous activity in the name of Christ, seeing as how Christ cited the law which states “thou shalt not murder” and if someone hits you, turn the other cheek. As for Catholic priests raping little boys, what I find interesting here is the embellishment that has gone on over this scandal. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops studied the abuse and concluded that 10,667 young people were sexually MISTREATED – not necessarily physically molested or raped, between 1950 and 2002. That’s 52 years of data. In 2004 the US department of education commissioned a study (http://www.wnd.com/2008/12/83705/) examining PHYSICAL sexual abuse by public school employees between 1991 and 2000 – a mere 9 years. The study revealed a staggering 290,000 students experienced some sort of PHYSCIAL sexual abuse – and 40 percent of the abusers were FEMALE. So just the FEMALE sexual abusers in the public schools alone, in ONE year, commit more acts of sexual abuse than 52 years of abuse by all Catholic priests, combined.
Of course you understand I condemn such behaviour, but clearly faith inhibits this behaviour, whereas in the Public schools GOD is not allowed, evolution is taught as fact, and you are not even allowed to question evolution. NO ONE is claiming that Jesus Christ would approve of molesting and raping children. You reap what you sow.
One of us is better than the other. One of us has the desired beneficial traits needed for human survival. One of us should procreate and other should be sterilized to prevent the passing on of undesired traits and the ongoing deterioration of human DNA. This is the grim reality of evolution.
These last two videos have been purely appeals to consequence. Even if it were true that every bad thing ever done were because of evolution it would not affect its validity.
Appeals to consequence most certainly. The consequences of belief in evolution – so the question arises, is evolution true or not. We are reaping what we have sown – and one of those consequences we are seeing, as we discussed and showed in the program, is that proper scientific study which shows that evolution is invalid, scientifically, has been hindered by evolutionary theory.
I’m disappointed. You didn’t address the claims that Hitler was a creationist. And your argument was a vague hand-wave that Hitler claimed to be a Christian but didn’t believe it.
It certainly was not hand-waving; you can read Hitler’s table talk for yourself, as the book has been translated and is available freely on the web. He was clear on his views of evolutionism, which he called “science,” and you can read specific quotes like:
“The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.” – page 8
“So it’s not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death. A slow death has something comforting about it. The dogma of Christianity gets worn away before the advances of science. Religion will have to make more and more concessions. Gradually the myths crumble. All that’s left is to prove that in nature there is no frontier between the organic and the inorganic. When understanding of the universe has become widespread, when the majority of men know that the stars are not sources of light but worlds, perhaps inhabited worlds like ours, then the Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.” – pg 59,60
Hitler’s hypocrisies were evident, and he was forward about his specific tactics.
Peter added to this, writing in from an undisclosed location in Europe:
Interesting. I would disagree with Dr Bergmann’s statement though that Hitler didn’t fight a war against Christianity. Hitler murdered every Christian theologian he didn’t agree with Bonhoeffer e.g. Even changed the theology. Additionally there was a concentration camp in Niederhagen near the occult hotspot Wewelsburg castle specifically for Bible scolars and Jehova’s witnesses….
The point being, Jesus warned us to judge by the fruit. You cannot criticize these various people for their attrocities, as they were simply following the mantra of evolution. They were consistent with what they believed. The sexual abusers and those who murdered in the name of Christ were *not* consistent with the faith they claimed to hold. But Jesus warned us against asking about the evils of others.
“There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices.
And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?
I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.”
Jesus warned us repeatedly of judgment to come – forget about what others have done, YOU have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. This isn’t some competition to see who’s the most holiest, because you will not be judged compared to others, you will be judged by God’s standard. Look at the ten commandments! Have you ever lied? You just fell short of God’s commandment. Have you ALWAYS held your parents in honor? No? uh oh, that’s another one. Have you ever used God’s name or the name of Jesus in vain? As a swear word? Uh oh – that’s a biggee. I don’t care how righteous you appear to be to people, congratulations, you have fallen short of God’s standard, and you are worthy of God’s judgment. You will not be allowed into the new heaven, and new earth, and there is only one other place to inherit: The lake of fire which was never intended for people, but for Satan and his fallen angels. That is why Jesus came, lived a perfect, sinless life, and took the wrath of God in your place – but you need to repent, which means to turn from your sinful ways and live your life in place of Christ, who died for you. You no longer own yourself anymore, but you now belong to Christ. Jesus called this being “born again” and it’s simple – you believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and confess this publically, giving your life and living your life for Him. Why don’t you do that today?
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